ryan to be house speaker. but ryan did support, i believe, plan b, did he not? >> yes. and, you know what, laura? you are always going to hear that type of rumblings. in the middle of this disaster, which is, you know, this discussion over nothing, basically, unless we get real spending cuts. you are going to hear speaker boehner should go. unless there is a massive movement afoot. massive. he will not be voted out. it is kind of like who is going to get out there on the cliff first, right? because you want those committee assignments. and if you go against the speaker and the speaker stays, you are going to be stripped of all those precious committee assignments where you get your power as a congressman or woman. so i don't think that's going to happen. >> going to get the goodies you are not going to do the right thing. >> that's right. >> bad washington situation and it's really shameful if that's what it is. look, nothing is going to get done if it's not happening. >> that's the way it is. >> we need new leadership. at least need new people at the table. this absolutely is not working. we need conservatives.